Some folk (we’ll name no names but she’s a thrifty granny with a penchant for headscarves and curlers!) ask us why we charge for something that falls free from the sky. Of course, the water itself is free. You’re paying for us to collect, screen, clarify and treat it to high standards and pump it to you. And maintain over 100 reservoirs, 83 treatment works and enough pipework to stretch from York to New York! What do you think? Should water be free? Join the debate - post a comment below.
Its not that expensive for getting clean water and you'd be stuck without it.
ReplyDeleteinnit man
Deleteyor right
DeleteI think water should be free for everyone.
ReplyDeleteWhy do english people think everything should be free i bet your either out of work or at the opposite end...i work in a shop and a lot of people buy a litre of bottled water every day cost around a pound 365 days a year .do the maths..whats your annual water bill....do the maths....everyday people will complain about the price of a gallon of fuel 1960 gallon was 20 p ..minmum wage hour 20 p ....2012 minimum wage aprox 6.16 hour gallon of fuel aprox 6.16 do the maths and stop sayin i can remember when that was only so much. you dont know how stupid you sound
DeleteYou don't get nothing for free so we pay for what we use as we are on a meter, I do use the water on the garden.
ReplyDeleteI understand why water isn't free - if I didn't pay how would it get to my home?? Certainly wouldn't be drinking what sits in my water butt!
ReplyDeleteAlthough the water companies clean n treat the water the cost should be lower...Like ALL big companies they are just tryin t make more money fer the "Fat Cats".If they didn't add Flouride n stuff n just Cleaned the water it would be cheaper..After all they can't improve on the taste.
ReplyDeleteYes and i suppose your going to dig a big hole wait for the rain to fall and then deliver it to 67.000.000 people inbuckets then when theyve piled all there shit in the middle of the streets your going to get a shovel and put it somewhere else for the tomatos to grow.and then after youve done all that being such a charitable business person your not going to charge us for it ..i really love i want you to be my president
DeleteWe had brilliant service at home when our drains were blocked, as part of our water payments. Long live paying for water!
ReplyDeleteFluoride is naturally present in all water supplies at varying levels, but we don’t have much in our water at all and we don't artificially fluoridate it. As part of The Water Act 2003, Strategic Health Authorities are responsible for consulting the general public and requesting that we add fluoride.
ReplyDeleteAlthough, like you say, we can’t really improve the taste of our water, we continue to work hard to make sure it meets some of the most stringent standards in the world. Over the next five years as part of a £3.5 billion investment programme, we’re spending £92 million improving the quality of our water and securing drinking water supplies so we’d like to think we’re investing your money wisely.
To yorks water.you dont need to spend all that money...some pratt up the list is going to do it all for free and youll get some tomatos
DeletePersonally, I hadnt though about begrudging paying a water bill, but now the video's brought it to my attention, it is starting to grate!
ReplyDeletewater shoudn't be free obviously there a lot of work time money etc what goes into it. but could you not reduce the price to be fair please?
ReplyDeleteHi Manny, you can always choose to have a water meter, if you haven't already got one. Then you pay for what you use instead of on the old rateable value system. You can easily reduce the amount you use, YW sent me some water saving tips as well as a flushsaver that you put in the toilet to reduce the amount of water when you flush...you could always use the rule, if its yellow let it mellow, if its brown flush it down, but that is taking things to an extreme. I think Yorkshire Water tastes great, alot cheaper that buying bottled water and better for the environment too!
ReplyDeleteI agree that without the 'clean' constant water supply we would all struggle. I have a water meter and it is cheaper but still it is quite expensive. Maybe you could introduce a means tested low income tariff for families that dont earn lots of money.
ReplyDeleteYes i agree and they should also askthe beer companies to not serve people on low incomes or sell them cigarettes or drive big cars because there families do not need a vital comodity like water at the top of there list with food think about it my son is out of work doesnt complain lives in a flat on his own.pays his bills ?
DeleteYes i agree and they should also askthe beer companies to not serve people on low incomes or sell them cigarettes or drive big cars because there families do not need a vital comodity like water at the top of there list with food think about it my son is out of work doesnt complain lives in a flat on his own.pays his bills ?
DeleteI have just applied for a water meter. I'm hoping it reduces our water bill by half.
ReplyDeleteWe are paying £399 per year at the moment, for a 1 bed flat in a sheltered housing complex. We have a shower and dont have a washing machine.
We can offer various payment options to help you pay your bill. We've also established an independent registered charity called the Community Trust to help people in cases of extreme financial hardship.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.yorkshirewater.com/managing-your-account/help-with-your-bill.aspx
Water may have a cost attached to clean and pump it to peoples homes but this does not justify a company to make an operating profit of £196.6 million for 2009. Yorkshire water has a monopoly to supply water to customers in its area giving it free range to make as much money as it wants to provide an essential for life.
ReplyDeleteWhy do we get charged for run off water? After all it runs into the drainage systems and sewers which we are already being charged for. Also why is there a standing charge levied on both drinking and sewage treatments on top of water charges? I do however agree that water needs to be treated and delivered at a reasonable cost which is not the case with the vast profits being made. It is time to abolish the monopolies and have a free market where customers can buy from the company offering the cheapest price.
ReplyDeleteI do not mind paying for water or to take it away but I resent paying the SAME fixed charge for my small house as for large house. It is not fair. Is it? The chief lives in a house with acres of land I have only a "handkerchief" of a land - why charge the same fixed rate for both? Not fair!!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm on a Meter and still have monthly charges when I am not at home (nothing is using the water supply).
ReplyDeleteWater in Manchester taste nicer than bottled water which might be because of the fluoride. But the water that I'm paying for in 'ull has limescale in it
Can you justify what looks like a blatant rip-off with regard to an approx. £40 annual charge for rainwater running from the roof into the sewer ?
ReplyDeleteWater IS free. It's the cleaning etc that we pay for.
ReplyDeleteIf you don't want the clean stuff, just collect your own, off the roof or wherever, and pay nowt. Well, less then!
It's the wervicees we pay for - and I agree the big nobs should pay more.
The water catchment 'guttering' above the reservoirs is designed to funnel water off the moors into the reservoirs. These are full of grass, pondweed etc. and have been for years.
ReplyDeleteMaybe we would not be so short of water if these were cleared on a regular basis.
Water will never be free as long as a bunch or greedy,avaricious, robbing buggers who have never done a day's work in their lives like the water companies can make easy money out of it
ReplyDeleteIt was never free to a domestic supply but it did you to be negligible .......and then it was privatised!
ReplyDeletePresumably its still much cheaper in Scotland ?
I don't think it should be free, yorkshire water is a business afterall but I do think that it should be cheaper.
ReplyDeleteUnlike every other company we don't get to choose our water company so I think they should give us the best rates anyway.
Profits, profits and more profits. Someone has to rob from the poor to give to the rich. Thanks monopoly company.
ReplyDeleteAll water supplies should be metered, then it's fair to everybody - you pay for what you use. Never mind filling whopping big paddling pools several times a year when you're on a 'rated' water supply. Nobody objects to paying for their electricity and gas which are metered so why not water? I saved over £20 a month after having a water meter fitted (for free).
ReplyDeleteWater should be provided by the state and charged for and not by a private company.
ReplyDeleteThe private company has one goal, to provide maximum return on investment to share holders by any means.
This does not represent due care and value to the people of this island.
Allowing a basic resource to be controlled by a private company is morally wrong and it should be changed.
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ReplyDeleteI dont mind paying for my water but object to having a meter enforced upon me and as I've been a Yorkshire Water customer for 35 years paying a regular annual change I would like to think that I would have the same equal opportunity to continue to pay an annual charge rather than have a meter and if I move to a house with a meter irrespective of the fact that the meter could have been in the house for over a year, I feel that I and those in the same position as myself should have an equal opportunity and a right to choose to carry on paying the water bill as an on-going annual charge and not be discriminated against and ordered to pay it through the water meter. Afterall it is a personal choice to have or not to have a water meter as the bill is sent to the named person at the address and nowadays as everything is about choice it the choice aspect of whether to have or not to have a meter should be given to the individual and not the property. If we were all supposed to have water meters then go-ahead and put them in EVERY house but as long as there is still freedom of choice as to whether or not to have one that choice should be given to the person and NOT the property where the meter is housed. We should be allowed to have it taken out if we have never paid a water bill on a meter and be able to continue to pay our water charges as a personal choice NOT have this enforced upon us. What say anyone else?
I quite agree that we should pay to have clean fresh water delivered to our domestic services. I also agree that we should pay to have our sewage taken away and disposed of correctly. However, I take issue with being charged for collecting the raw material and providing it to Yorkshire water services (from my roof and curtilage) and I object to paying standing charges when I am already paying for all water used via a meter. How do YW justify a standing charge when a meter is in place? All income can be derived from the current water tariff. it's like paying to use a credit card. the income derived is far and away inferior to the irritation caused to the customer. I note that YW also charge to use credit cards on their website. they'll have the same reputation as Ryanair soon...
ReplyDeleteWe need to make profit to continue to improve the service & product we supply.
ReplyDeleteWe think really carefully about what we spend our money on & also ask customers where we need to spend this money.
For further information on our investment follow this link - http://www.yorkshirewater.com/policy-source/investment-in-yorkshire.aspx
I really wouldn't mind paying as much for my water if i hadn't have had to but 6 kettles, 2 dishwashers and 2 washing machines in the last 12 months due to the ridiculous amount of lime in our water, filter it where you clean it , don't make me fork out another £300 for a filtration system for my house the another £20 a quarter on replacement cartridges just so my kettle lasts more than 2 months.
ReplyDeleteJust a quick thought about going on a meter though, surely if you do and it is cheeper, surely you should be rebated for the X amount of years that you have been over charged. LOL Like thats ever gonna happen
I havnt had 6 kettles in 20 years and i think needing 2 dishwashers is ridiculous you could get a wasing bowl for 1.50 and wash them yourself you canalso buy a cheap water filter and it will take out the heavy particles and your yorkshire tea will taste better .ive lived in many places in england and europe but i think if you have as much lime as you say i think you would find it very hard to walk
DeleteYou say you seek to make a profit to improve services, I don not see you investing all your profits back into the business, what your customer sees is you investing in lining the pockets of your Managers and your share holders at the expense of your customers. I would welcome the choice of being able to choose my supplier rather than having one forced on me. The word customer when used to refer to Yorkshire Water is a tenuous one, as a customer usually has a choice, where as we have no choice. You say you ask your "customers" where the need to spend the customers money, I have never been asked, if I was to be asked I would recommend you reduce your pay to managers and pass on the savings as reduced costs to your "customers".
ReplyDeleteIt would also seem that your poor attempt at customer relations with regard to this forum had backfired, as you can see many of your "customers" are not satisfied with you as a company and are of the opinion that you are a monopoly company that wants to empty the pockets of your customers.
I can see a lot of valid points above--my arguement is in the forces we had to sort our water out in the field so whats different no mains supply there--we had purification tablets or if in doubt boil it--alright you cant boil enough water for a bath but then you dont drink that. Other point is why is it so different in price after all it comes through pipes to our taps yet the variation in price even on the same street can be astounding come on boards get sorted one price for all
ReplyDeleteyorkshire water can not even get the time right on their forum, i'm pretty sure i would never choose to use a company that can't even manage that.
ReplyDeletePS I also posted the one at 07:23 or was it 15:23???
The truth is - we are NOT paying because Yorkshire Waters collect and clean it.
ReplyDeleteWater is not free because of Admirality Law.
Which governs the sky, below sky, waters.
And we were born from our waters womb, and hence, they have applied The Commericial Code Law on us people, as though we doing business with them.
They see us people as resources to make money.
You, Yorkshire Waters are giving reasons that is based on rational.
But it has nothing to do with logic of cleaning waters.
It has to do with the Admirality Law, and policies, rules which you have used to enforce on the people.
Can we once and for all overcome the farce of UK houses not having water meters? The compulsory rollout of meters should have been initiated years ago.
ReplyDeleteAfter the oil war, the religious war, the food war, the next one will be the water war - or lack of it.
(For the record, I fitted one years ago, when you had to pay for it, and since then it has saved pots of money. I can also monitor our consumption on a monthly basis)
Having just spent a fortnight in Turkey where the water isn't so reliable I don't mind paying for fresh clean water to my tap. It beats lugging heavy 5 litre bottles home in the heat every day.
ReplyDeleteTo Mike, meters are a wonderful idea until, you realise this gives Yorkshire water the opportunity to increase your bills on a quarterly basis rather than a yearly, leaving you open the excuses as to why your bills are rising so much, lack of rain fall, increase in unforeseen costs, more leaks than expected and so the list would go on.
ReplyDeleteA charge for water is neccassary to prevent waste and ensure there is enough to go around, which is why meters should be compulsary. There is a valid comment about the coming war over water as this resource becomes more scarce. If there was an easy way to implement a progressive tax on water - e.g. no tax for what is neccassary to live based on the number of people in the property and a higher tax on anything over this, I would support this. This would also help those who are more vulnerable in society and help reduce waste.
ReplyDeleteI have read all the above comments. I like clean drinking water & pay for our supply by meter. The people who object to a charge have the option of not having a supply in their homes & carrying or rolling it (as we do when away with the caravan) from the nearest supply, then finding a legal way to dispose of the waste. Put up or shut up!
ReplyDeleteI don't mind paying for clean drinking water, but I don't need drinking water to flush my lavatory or to use in my washing machine. Perhaps we could be offered two grades of water - one less treated and so cheaper?
ReplyDeleteI dont mind paying for sewerage/dirty water from washing machines etc. to be taken away but I do mind for paying for drinking water. I know that drinking water is also treated but why not have an experiment, lets choose a small town, say Halifax where I live, lets just say that everyone in Halifax only had enough money to pay for the sewerage to be taken away but not enough to pay for the drinking water, how long do you think the residents would last without water to drink. The human body can only last a few minutes without fresh air, only a few days without fluids, such as water but weeks or even months without food, do you see where I'm going? this is why I dont mind at all about paying to take my dirty water away but do when I HAVE to pay for somethng that I NEED TO LIVE, otherwise I would die.
ReplyDeleteJason, if you're not being provided with drinking water (which is the whole of the water supplied to your tap) in the first place what would you have to take away down your sewer??
ReplyDeleteNB:There are plenty of systems available on the market for farming 'grey water' which can be used to collect rain water for toilet flushing etc. Once you look into the cost of this, I think you would be very grateful to Yorkshire Water for providing this service.
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If I had a choice on water companies I would undoubtedly stick with Yorkshire Water. Not only is there customer care 1st class. They also open their reservoirs and land for public use, for recreational purposes. In a time when taking the family out is very expensive, this is a great way for a free, very enjoyable day out. For anyone who is interested all the walks, cycle routes, fishing etc details are available on their website. http://www.yorkshirewater.com/leisure-time.aspx
Your water bill doesn't go up on a quarterley basis unless your water consumption does!
ReplyDeleteThe charges for water are agreed with OFWAT on a yearly basis, depending on company performance, which I might add are very, very strict, if YW under perform they are fined in the customers interest by being told they have to either freeze bills or reduce them. However, because they are one of the highest rated water companies in the UK, they do not get penalised. Unlike some of the others who are imposing hosepipe bans, and on occasion some have been 'fined' (penalised) for providing water unfit for human consumption.!!
I know who I would choose if they didn't have the monopoly for the area!
http://www.ofwat.gov.uk/
I dont mind having to pay for water as a worked for 10 years manufacturing pipes,valves installing them + replacing them in many pumping,sewerage plants so i know first hand the advances in technology that they use to bring us clean safe water. I belive we get it at a good price for what the water company spend on new equipment.
ReplyDelete"We need to make profit to continue to improve the service & product we supply."
ReplyDeleteEr, no. R&D costs count as operating costs, as I'm sure your accounts have already arranged, and are therefore not included in profits. You need to make profits so that you can pay dividends to your shareholders. You need to make ever-greater profits, otherwise your shareholders will leave or sue. And you do that on the back of something that should be a human right for all - it is incomprehensible that a country as rich as ours, even in the current economic climate, does not provide running water and sewage disposal on the same basis as it provides roads and streetlights.
We should pay for fresh clean water. Paying for water makes you think more about how you use such a precious resource. When you think of the lengths some people in the world have to go to get water and compare that with how people in our country use it to water gardens, wash cars etc. Everyone should pay then it wouln't bother me quite so much when I see my neighbour watering the grass for free!!
ReplyDeleteHere we go- the old left wing cry "PROFIT".
ReplyDeleteI don't suppose the loony lefties regard their wages or saleries as profit from their labours. And I don't suppose they regard as profit the returns they get from their savings accounts or premium bonds. Are shareholders not entitled to a return (taxable) on their risk and investment?
Don't lets forget that prior to Mrs. Thatcher, nobody had a choice where their electricity came from, or their gas, even a choice if you want to join a union or not, in lots of workplaces it was compulsory or you were out. All conveniently forgotten.
I dont mind paying for water as long as its clean and fresh,i sometimes fall over at the price of it though,surface water charges whats all that about then? is that us paying for rain water?? i live in a one bed apartment and my water bill is on average 120 a quarter for just me, is that a lot or not? i am only there on average 3 to 4 days a week like i say i dont mind paying for it, its a service we all need
ReplyDeleteThe only issue I have with my water bill is the fixed rental charges, all other utility companies have abolished this fixed charge, it is time for Yorkshire Water to do the same. I dont mind paying for the water I use, but the fixed charges are unacceptable these days.
ReplyDeleteWater IS free!
ReplyDeleteWhat isn't, is the infrastructure needed (and it's maintenance)to get it to our homes, add to this the wages of those who work for Yorkshire water the costs involved in filtration etc it starts to become an expensive commodity.
Then of course we need to think about shareholder profits...after all they won't invest if there isn't a return will they?
The biggest 'shareholder' in any business is it's CUSTOMERS, the bigger the profit the larger the dividend...can all of your customers expect to be receiving our cheque in the post soon?
Whilst water does need treating, (because of all the pollutants in the ground water and rivers etc) it is in fact FREE as it is a natural precipital occurrence and a substance without which all life cannot exist.
ReplyDeleteAgain, everything we have that should be 'FREE' has a 'monetary charge' to it! Waste water should be paid for, but: HOW do we know that the numerous water companies are being totally honest with us about costs, and why: don't they fix all the leaks that are wasting millions of gallons PER DAY!!
So is Yorkshire Water's first loyalty to its customers or its shareholders?
ReplyDeleteAnd while some of the bill covers the cost of treating and distributing the water, a large chunk of it goes towards paying £1.23m in salaries and bonuses to the directors, as well as a significant amount being spent on corporate spin like this.
Instead of patronising your customers about how the raw material may be free but the finished product isn't, how about explaining exactly what these directors do to "earn" these ridiculous amounts?
An post earlier today posed the question about how we're playing our part in reducing leakage on our pipes across Yorkshire – a good question. We operate 35,000 km of pipes serving 2.3 million homes and 4.7 million customers - that's enough pipework to stretch around the world. Some of these pipes are over 100 years old and as you would imagine over time have become weakened and prone to the occasional leak.
ReplyDeleteWe've increased the size of the team working day and night on leakage detection by a third. This team not only detects leaks, but also plays a crucial part in identifying any pipes which are likely to burst - enabling us to take action to stop a burst before it happens.
Our team utilise the latest technologies to help combat leakage, including listening rods and pressure monitors in our pipes. This has proved a huge success; over the last decade the number of leaks has fallen by half as a result as our continued focus on saving water, but we recognise there is more to be done. That's why over the next five years we'll be investing £3.5 billion over the next five years to improve and enhance our assets including our water pipes.
Fair enough we need to pay for our water to be treated but why do we have to pay so much??? I'm spending more on water per month than i do on my electric or gas bill per month.
ReplyDeletewater should be free rip off companys like yorkshire water and so do clean it but this is only a small cost when comparied to what we pay (must make a profit i am in ICT and many OS like linux dont charge and when they do it what it cost to build not like the rip off bills we get in the uk))
ReplyDeleteSte577broadband and anyone else who thinks water is free. You are correct. Of course you are. So, contact YW, ask if you can have a permanent disconnection, as you are going to catch, store and treat your own. Oh, and don't forget to ask for a sewer disconnection too, or are you forgetting they take your turds away and clean them as well. One week without clean water or the ability to flush your muck and everything else away and you will be begging to pay the pound a day for this service. The lot of you should stop whining and go live somewhere where water is recognised for the precious commodity it is, then be thankful for one of the best services this country can ever provide.
ReplyDeleteSo no answer to the question about what these directors DO to "earn" their £1.23m of salaries and bonuses, Yorkshire Water?
ReplyDeleteSince you can't answer it, when can we expect to see that £1.23m come off our water bills?
I fully understand that there is a cost to clean and transport water but it is morally indefensible that a substance essential to life is placed in the hands of a private profit making company with a monopoly on provision. For any other utility, at least I have a choice of supplier. Water should be supplied by the state and funded through taxation
ReplyDeleteThanks for the post above about directors' salaries.
ReplyDeleteWe employ around 2,500 people and deliver a vital service to nearly 5m people. It's important we employ senior people with the skills and experience to guide the company in the right strategic and financial direction for the benefit of both customers and employees. That's a huge, multi-million pound responsibility! Their leadership has an effect on not just the quality of water in Yorkshire but the environment, the local economy and the jobs and livelihoods of a significant number of people in our region.
Of course, to get and retain these good people, we need to pay them in line with what other senior executives are paid in our industry and in other sectors. We'd rather judge our directors by their actions and by what they have delivered. In the last ten years they have been at the heart of a strategy to ensure we use the very latest technologies to minimise the impact of any work we do, investing in our website and contact centre so customers get the best possible service, and spending an average of £750 per household to reduce the risk of bursts, low water pressure, incidents of discolouration, sewer flooding and odour problems.
It's also worth pointing out that our directors' salaries and bonuses are largely dependent on personal and overall performance, which is regulated by Ofwat, an entirely independent body.
I second the statement that water should be nationalised. Private companies should not be in charge of such an important aspect of our social infrastructure and also our national security. Might as well privatise local councils while we're at it!
ReplyDeleteAnd of course YW should not be paying its staff wages above acceptable public sector salaries! Regulated by OfWAT or not, I resent contributing towards executive-level salaries and bonuses.
Just like the the railways, I'd love to see Yorkshire Water taken back by the state!
Q: Should water be free - A: No, because we all have to pay for the service that the water companies carry out - water purification, sewage removal and treatment, pipe infrastructure renewal and up grading etc.
ReplyDeleteThe real question is how can we all ensure that we're paying the right price for this service?
A regards re-Nationalisation to re-dstribute the cost (and profits) more evenly so a 1 bed flat occupant is not paying £120 a quarter to line the pockets of shareholders who can afford to "take the risk" on a privatised water Company is also a no brainer.
In the current economic climate (directly caused by a combination of inept Government and privatised industries BANKS - which like water Companies are regulated to ensure fair play and have mostly been saved by the taxpayer whilst other taxpayers have had their homes repossessed) when cuts need to be made the poorest will suffer again.
THE REAL QUESTION IS HOW CAN THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY DEMAND AN INTEGRATED STRATEGY FROM THE ENERGY AND UTILITY COMPANIES WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFRENT AND DISPERATE INTERESTS AT WORK?
INTEGRATED SOLUTIONS FOR GAS, ELECTRIC AND WATER COLLECTIVELY ARE REQUIRED NOW WITH ALTERNATIVE THINKING BASED ON REAL EVIDENCE OF WHAT WORKS BEST COLLECTIVELY WITH FAIRNESS FOR ALL PARTIES IS THE BIGGER PICTURE.
Yorkshire folk and Yelda (Yorhsire Water) should take the lead and begin to work now with Centrica (British Gas) AG-EoN (another globally owned former British energy company) & other parties to select an area of Yorkshire - Let's say Halifax as suggested by and earlier poster and work together on an integrated approach with a long term strategy aimed at finding the best INTERGATED SOLUTION FOR THE CUSTOMER.
A combinated of solar, wind , hydro and other innovative solutions that will change the old public and private - rich v poor - right wing v left wing arguements. Working together and yorkshire is the place (again) to take the lead.
What is YW doing collectively in this area?
I think its unfair that you should have to continue to use a water meter when moving in to a new property( ie the property I am moving to has a meter)I have not agreed to this and dont want to have to be bound by the last occupiers decision to have a water meter, it will certainly not be cheaper for me, as unlike the previous occupiers I dont go away for 4 months of the year and i am not a pensioner like them, why is this system so unfair and doesn't give the consumer any choice?I dont ever waste water( previous property doesnt have a water meter) if it is not suitable ie the charges are more than the rateable unmetered charge will YW change to unmetered.
ReplyDeleteIt’s a disgrace that people must pay inflated water prices for what is a natural resource so that company shareholders can live off the backs of others. Water should be returned to a public utility.
ReplyDeleteMy Water bill was so high i thought i had a water leak, but no it was the price they charge for it. I wish it was nationalised and non profit making, and then it would be the price it should be. Why does Spain supply cheaper water?
ReplyDeletePersonally I don't think healthy clean water should be free as it costs to clean it..........HOWEVER. The water companies who work to make Profits for their shareholders only should be capped to restrict the profits they can make. They are far too eager to waste money on crack pot ideas instead of being wise a spending what money they do get wisely.......For instance ... they would rather spend millions of pounds on building reservoir walls up to accommodate more water that digging out the silt from existing reservoirs when empty at the end of the summer to enable them to hold up to 1/3rd more water. The silting up of our reservoirs has taken forty + years and now need such maintenance to get them to hold the water they used to hold. Secondly we have an abundence of water in this country but we do not have any Hydro electric power for cheap clean power using the water? Why?
ReplyDeleteI appreciate it takes money to provide clean drinking water and treat sewage but considering we live in one of the wettest countries in Europe so rainwater is a plentiful resource - why do we pay so much more than the rest of Europe for the service. I also pay more for my water than for my electricity or gas - perhaps the government should fix the prices as they do in some other countries?
ReplyDeleteThe water situation in this country isn't going to get any easier especially in the SE .Every house should be metered , without exception. Every body living in each house should be allowed a reasonably generous basic amount for drinking ,washing etc. This amount would be charged for at a basic per X litres rate.After that amount each say 1000 litres extra would be charged for at increasing rates .I am on a metre and consequently try to be frugal about my water use .My neighbour just pays his basic rate and makes no attempt to limit his use of water .No doubt he pays more than me but that is not what we are discussing . A sliding scale of charges concentrates the mind wonderfully.
ReplyDeleteI agree that we should be charged for water and for the correct disposal of sewerage, i do however take issue with the idea of having to pay for the up keep of the water pipes from the roadside to my house.
ReplyDeleteWhatever next, are we to be charged for the gas and electric supply from the roadside to our houses?
To be honest the regulator has no teeth and is probably in conlusion with the water gas and electric companies.
Talk about rip off Britain.
The politicians of this country have a lot to answer for.
I have just spent 10 minutes reading some of the comments made by other people and its pretty clear that nobody minds paying for water but they do mind paying over inflated prices and and being ripped off.
ReplyDeleteI agree that all utility companies should be not for profit organisations and what profit is made is pumped back into the system.
The rich just get richer, one rule for you and another for the peasants.
Mr. Anonymous, I think this is the general mood in the UK - rich get richer and most decisions which make no sense are because someone rich is getting richer. Hence privatisation of the water companies.
ReplyDeleteAnd let's just look at how little sense it makes. The cornerstone of private industry is competition. Competition is what drives efficiency and drives costs and prices downward, and allows some companies to thrive whilst others die out or get purchased.
How does this model fit water companies? Not in the slightest!
I can't exactly decide like this - "hey, Anglian Water is giving great service and has some shiny new deals on... I think I'll switch to them!"
No - because Yorkshire Water has a monopoly over... well... Yorkshire water! And this can't be changed - it is, as has been said, a part of our social infrastructure. The water belongs to Yorkshire - to you and me!
The idea of the water industry being in the private sector is ridiculous, and yet it was implemented!
I've used a water filter and I've been testing your so called "paying so water is clean" nonsense.
ReplyDelete6 months and the filter cartridge is BLACK.
I'm going to put that online and I'm going to get the best freaking SEO experts, keyword experts to make sure the people of Yorkshire to see those photographs.
People, the filter cartridge was WHITE. 3 months it went dark with bacteria from the water.
6 Months of using Yorkshire waters, it collects all the bacteria, and dirt.
And in 6 months it is BLACK! Disgusting.
So my money and the money of all these people, you say pays for cleaning the water is a load of nonsense.
I cannot wait to put those photos up and see what Yorkshire Waters has to say for themselves.
Having posed and read all the comments on here, it would seem that YW are very selective in giving answers. Quite a few people leaving comments in here question why there is no competition for YW, this question it seems is one that YW are not willing to answer, mainly due to the fact that they have a monopoly in Yorkshire which in effect is a licence to print money. The last thing YW need is another company diluting there managers bonuses, how would they afford the new car or a trip to the Caribbean is there was more competition.
ReplyDeleteWater should be free. They clean it for themselves just as much as for us.
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